Between June 4th, when the first wave of reviews of the New Jag hit (offically the I-PACE, what a dumb name) and the time the salesman called me saying “Time to sign the order if you want to be in the first wave”, I had to decide whether to spend a lot of money on a car I’d never seen or touched. So I paid damn close attention to those reviews. I’m a critical reader, and suspicious about the motives of product reviewers, and I think the picture that emerges is pretty clear. This post is to enumerate what I think it’s possible to know for sure about the car without having owned or even driven one. [Updated based on hands-on experience.]

I’ll throw in a bunch of links down at the bottom to reviews that I think are particularly useful.

Facts ·

Underneath
Black interior
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White interior

Things that are good ·

Things that are not so good ·

My conclusion · What happened was, when the first buzz of publicity hit in March I was interested enough to drop by Vancouver Jaguar and talk to Caleb Kwok, the sales manager. He’s a plausible guy, responsive to email, and anyhow, he convinced me to put down a refundable deposit, buying me a place near the front of the line at the time actual orders would open up. Which turned out to be last week.

By which time I’d read all the material summarized in this piece. On balance, I liked what I heard; the pluses were pretty big and none of the minuses bothered me that much. Remember, the longest trip I normally take is 230km to Seattle, where I park for a couple of days then drive home.

So I signed on the dotted line, and my deposit is no longer refundable.

The big worry, of course, is reliability and manufacturing quality. Jaguar, at various times in its history, has had a miserable reputation. Of one famous model, they used to say “It’s a great car, so buy two, because one will always be in the shop.” It’s worse than that; Jag at one point had a particularly stinky track record around electrical systems.

But there are stats suggesting Jag’s doing better in recent years. And then there’s the fact that it’s being built in a plant where they also make Mercedes and BMW. Granted, I’m taking a chance here.

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From: Karl Volt (Jul 08 2018, at 10:37)

ad Sounds: It's not only about fun. In my opinion, I'd love to have no sound up to 55 km/h, a clear difference in loudness exceeding 55 km/h with a mid-level sound, and at 105 and 135 km/h additional "sound barriers". (Not only) here in Austria, we have speed limits at 50 km/h, 100 km/h and 130 km/h.

This could be extended by a fourth "sound barrier" at 70 km/h which is a frequent temporary speed limit.

This way, I don't have to follow the speedometer that closely with my eyes. The additional acoustic signal tells me that I am too fast or consciously exceeding it. IMO this would be a clever usability thing to have.

ad Magna and production quality: I was working there until ten years ago on a consulting basis in Engineering (not production). From what I've learned back then: less than 15 percent of all cars are made by the OEM (like Jaguar) themselves. The rest is done at external companies either in parts or whole cars. Usually, the level of quality is even higher at external companies like Magna because OEMs look more closely before they put their name on the product.

Meanwhile, I no longer work in automotive but I would not worry a second when buying a car manufactured at Magna, who has quite a reputation when it comes to complex production setups. For example, ten years ago, they were producing three totally different cars on one single production line which is really impressive when you take into account all that logistics behind. Magna is also a top player for all-wheel-drives, not only for Mercedes G-class or Steyr G. Therefore, they did all kind of 4-wheel-drive-car adaptations for German OEMs.

Further more, Magna proved that they are able to do a very innovative car from scratch just for demonstrating purposes. Search for "Magna MILA" and you will be surprised how "capable" this "supplier" is.

I am not affiliated with Magna or any automotive company in any kind any more for many years.

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From: Anson Lee (Jul 09 2018, at 11:49)

If Tesla had a better interiors, on par with traditional luxury automakers, would you put it back on the consideration list? And aside from the car hardware itself, does the Tesla "platform" of charging stations, software innovation etc... offer any competitive advantage in your opinion?

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From: Martin Wood (Jul 10 2018, at 20:53)

I had heard through various car buffs and media that here in NZ the idea of an emitting vehicle noise was being suggested as to the number of close calls car verses pedestrian .Up to 20km .Sounds plausible.

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From: Adam Sloan (Aug 29 2018, at 13:51)

Just back from 2 weeks in Vancouver, I'd say the electric car ratio there is just noticeably higher than elsewhere (unlike the Bentley/Lambo count!). I could do 95% of my driving with a Leaf, but the payback over my Prius may never justify it. Until the kids get a bit older and want some keys...

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